Spot the Difference

A few days ago a lovely lady on tumblr, Nanner, posted a screen-shot of Forever21 dresses and their plus size counterpart. She talked about how the plus size section was tacky, loud and crass compared to the “normal” range. It got me thinking about here in the UK, and the differences which I’ve talked about on twitter in the past. So, here are a few screenshots of different UK shops that have plus size collections.

I’m posting them without comment, because I want to know what you think. Do you see what I see? Which collections would you be more likely to shop from (assuming you could buy all of it if you wanted)?

Image: screencap of some dresses available at New Look

New Look new dresses above. New Look Inspire (16 – 26) new dresses, below:

Image: screencap of some dresses available in New Look's plus size section.

Image: Screencap of Matalan's new in.

Matalan new in above. Matalan Plus new in below:

Screencap of Matalan's new plus size offerings.

Image: Screencap of M&Co's new dresses.

M&Co dresses above. M&Co plus size dresses, below:

Image: Screencap of M&Co's plus size dresses.

Image: Screencap of Tesco's new in. (Really want the star ptint shiffon shirt!)

Tesco new in above. Tesco True (16 – 28) new in, below:

Image: Screencap of Tesco's True range new in.

Image: Screencap of ASOS' new arrivals.

ASOS new in clothing above. ASOS Curve (20 – 26) new in below:

Image: Screencap of ASOS Curve's front page/new in.

Image: Screencap of Very's new in, mostly Love Label (6 - 20)

Very new in above. Very So Fabulous! (16 – 32) new in below:

Image: Screencap of Very's So Fabulous new in.

What do you think? I’d LOVE to know your thoughts on this, haha.

http://twitter.com/BeBelongy Becky B

Insanity. The only one comparable, and I actually like the plus range better is ASOS.
The rest offer a substandard, old fashioned, nunty alternative (if you can call it that). Its like you know this is so, but having the stark comparison, right there infront of just hammers the point home even harder. Sad.
StephanieDJL

Matalan’s plus size range is a joke & should be abolished immediately.
I’m tempted to by those Very leather trousers now though…
- http://pocketrocketfashion.com Lauren
  
  I saw some pleather trousers at the One Stop Plus thingy! They were awesome!
Editor

I think the state of our plus size. Collections is for the most part utterly useless. When I’m pulling together looks for SLiNK magazine I often struggle to get on trend, sassy, flattering and good quality pieces, its often frumpy or just really boring. Plus size collection designers assume that curvy girls don’t rate quality and design for some reason!
Rai

Personally I like none of the above; the styles of the ‘normal’ clothing is yucky and the patterns on the plus-size are not so nice. I guess I just don’t like anything in fashion at the moment! xx

- Rai http://blarglefargle.blogspot.com/
Anonymous

Just looking at the pictures, based on the models, I have a hard time knowing which clothes are for me – but that is really more about the modeling industry.
- http://pocketrocketfashion.com Lauren
  
  That’s a WHOLE other blog post, Marianne! ;)
http://twitter.com/glassarmy Ailsa

kind of the opposite to the f21- from looking at the screeenshots, the plus size stuff is pretty universally boring and mumsy. asos being pretty much the only ones to realise that young fashionable women are plus size too
- http://pocketrocketfashion.com Lauren
  
  Yeah – in a way, I almost prefer the tackiness of F21+ as opposed to 2in1 waterfall cardi tops.
  
  I agree ASOS are the best, although I do get a bit sick of their ponte/playsuits/ponte playsuits overload.
Jo

Hmm I’ll sum it up in one word – Grannyfied
Teri Doyle

i’ve never looked at it like that before.

makes me sad! plus size is all ugly prints and sack like tops..
Anna Banana

I think your point rings very true, with the exception of Asos. I like their jumpers.
CityPoodle

I frequently receive emails from New Look with their trend of the week and always hope they will translate it to the Inspire range, but they almost never do… is frustrating.
- http://pocketrocketfashion.com Lauren
  
  Same here :(
http://www.suburbansweetheart.com/ Suburban Sweetheart

In every instance except perhaps ASOS, the plus-size line is infinitely less trendy than the straight-size lines. The plus-size pieces you’ve shown aren’t nearly as tacky as the Forever 21 plus-size line (WHICH I HATE SO MUCH), but they’re also nothing special – they’re overwhelmingly boring, plain, nothing to write home about. And even when they’re not bad, they’re not nearly as good as their straight-size counterparts. As Nanner wrote, it’s disappointing, really, not to mention baffling – why don’t they just make the same clothes in bigger sizes?! We just want to wear the same damn thing.
Tigeress Kitten

You have a good point. Some of the prints in plus size are hideous in comparison to the non plus selection. Plus their are plenty of non plus size items that could translate to plus but aren’t where as the plus is full of “been their done that”. I swear if I see one more loud print jersey dress for plus in the same cut I will scream! Its not that its a bad dress style… its just soooo over used in plus since they don’t know how else to flatter our figures. Its like “instead of experimenting with creating a similar look for plus size buy altering the cut to better fit plus lets just make the same dress we did for plus size last year and the year before and the year before in another 2 tone print. Oh, make sure its the two tone also, wouldn’t want to sell our multicolor/brights to the fat girls who are trying to hide themselves.” On the other hand when I think of how plus sized clothing looked like when I was young I shudder and thank gaud for brands like ASOS Curve who at lease make a slight effort at flattering clothing that doesn’t look like an old woman’s closet.
Tigeress Kitten

But then again all the things I just commented about are the reasons why I don’t limit myself to plus size sections… I buy plus size 70% cause its more likely to fit and then I buy non plus when stuff is cut to allow for flowyness (witch means I will fit in it but it wont fit the way its meant to. So I end up with a mix that means I can style it to look better even when my selection is craptastic.
- http://pocketrocketfashion.com Lauren
  
  The sad thing is not all plus size women CAN even “make it work” in straight size stores – because a lot of these ranges only go up to UK26, anyone over that has to try and “make it work” in the ranges that are supposed to be for them! That’s a rant for another day, however :)
http://blogtobealive.com Blog to be Alive

I gotta say I am not drawn to much. I still prefer ASOS regular range to Curve. I wonder why Curve comes up with so many playsuits. I barely see them on blogs or hear about people buying them. I just don’t get it. Personally I love a lot of clothes from M&S especially their Limited range. Unfortunately it stops at a 16 or 18. :(
Sarayasmin

The thing that leaps out for all of the ranges (with the exception of ASOS curve) is that major high street retailers seem to assume that fat lasses need covering up. The ranges are very unadventurous in cut and styling, with a bias towards flowy robe-like styles, in some (you’re quite right here) pretty eye-bleed-nasty prints. If I wanted to dress like a techo nun I’d go to Burning Man. Matalan particularly appear to have taken the view that a girl over size 18 needs nothing more than a waterfall cardigan (presumably so that she can curl up on the sofa in it and cry into her dinner).

I get really cynical about these types of clothing ranges as I have a horrible suspicion that there’s some skinny designer sitting at his or her desk thinking that big girls MUST be inherently ashamed of their bodies and so require big shapeless tents to hide in. Which is a pretty unpleasant thing to think. Just think how maternity clothes have changed in the last 20 years – they’re now all designed predicated on the view that ladies want to flaunt the bump – why can’t the high street grasp that I might want to flaunt my curves?
- http://pocketrocketfashion.com Lauren
  
  Exactly. If I never see a waterfall cardigan again, it’ll be too soon.
Sally Reeve Edwards

I’d never really compared the two before and blimey – so right – especially New Look – SUCH a difference…..It’s wierd because I’m always really pleased with the choice of plus stuff out there – when I was in my teens and twenties there was Evans and that was it. Now I’m 40 I’m trying to be braver in how I dress and not live in tunics and flowy crap – and your blog is one of the ways I get inspiration……

Really interesting post – thanks Lauryn!
Tamsin

Echoing everybody else with ‘why don’t they just make the same clothes in bigger sizes?!’ I know I ranted at you on twitter but seriously, why do fat girls need different clothes? Do they want us all to be at home, crying about the size of arms and needing a cover up? Well FUCK THEM!
Lois – blog White Noise

I actually had a full on rage rant to my poor mother when I was in new look the other day. Most of the stock has been the same for as long as I can remember and I was so disgusted with their tacky print, sack like, Lycra type dresses…. I mean COME ON!! no self respecting skinny bird would wear that so why do you expect us fatties to? We love fashion too you know!!

The selection of clothes are very Market stall like. Although I do occasionally find a nice thing to wear, it happens very rarely these days. If you’re not going to out some effort into your plus size ranges then why bother at all?

I think they’re under the impression that plus size clothes are for older ladies who want plain, comfortable clothes….when in reality, it’s the fashion conscious, young ones like us, with disposable incomes and who want to shop for fun that they should be aiming for! They’re too scared to take a risk and supply more than just the basics in case no one buys….HELLOOOO, WE’RE HERE AND READY TO SHOP!

Take a leaf from asos’ book!
http://profiles.google.com/d22babe barbara crabtree

Great post! I was thinking the same in New Look this morning, I was looking at that orange patterned… thing in disbelief. Every single plus size range seems to sell nothing but shapeless tunics and waterfall cardigans. Why is that? Someone is obviously buying them!

Except for ASOS <3, who I really think are doing a good job of providing some stylish pieces for fat girls.

PS: high street stores, some of us are tall you know. Please size some of your dresses and tights accordingly.
- http://pocketrocketfashion.com Lauren
  
  Haha I have the opposite problem – everything drowns me because it’s made for someone at least 5 inches taller!
  - Ezzie
    
    Yup, and the petite sections in shops never go up to my size, like they think only skinny girls can also be short…hello, do they not realise that the shorter you are, the less you need to weigh to be plus size? A couple of pounds can take you up a dress size, at least when you’re as short as me!
http://www.facebook.com/carmenluvian Carmen Luvian

This post depresses me:(
whats weird is that new look insopire range used to be GREAT i used to get SO many cool dresses and skirts and tops like proper stuff..i mean lauren youi know what im into…and now i will literally walk in and out within 4 seconds cos its all that shit that you have posted.
its made me realise that although i am plus size (can go anywhere between a 14 top to a 22 bottom – im usually int he middle with an 18-20) im pretty lucky that i dont need to use these departments cos i can still get myself into their SS. because now its made me realise actually once you go over a 20..you can be doomed.
if anything, while il keep on upporting and campaigning to just get the SS made biggerrather than a seperate range..jesus its scared me intio watching i dont go over the size 20 mark! putting the biscuits down now! omg..MAYBE THATS IT. MAYBE THIS IS THE GIVERNMENTS PLAN TO SOP OBESITY, SHAME US INTO DIETS!
Tineke

What I noticed aside from the obvious lame trend on our end is simply that the smaller clothes are more varied. ASOS is just as guilty as the rest of them on this front. They make a pattern and then most of the clothes are just the same pattern with a few changes. In the regular line almost every picture/piece of clothing is really different, for different types of people with different needs. I don’t want my clothes to all be the same… I want my clothes to be different from one another.

The Faith 21 line is strange too. I think the regular line is pretty tacky too, but I do notice a strange emphasis on cheesy printed t-shirts that they would never put in their regular line, and a strange desire for everything to be really vampy. Plus size+stylish does not equal streetwalker. There are streetwalker clothes in the regular line too, but also a lot of other stuff.
naomi griffiths

Having it put in front of you like that is a real eye-opener…..

I just don’t understand why it is how it is, I am sure somebody will try and give me some half baked reason of ‘but this what the masses want’!
- http://pocketrocketfashion.com Lauren
  
  BLAH BLAH BLAH PRODUCTION COSTS WAAAHHH OLDER DEMOGRAPHIC BLAH DE BLAH NO DEMAND FNARGH MORE FABRIC GAAAAHHH DIFFERENT SHAPES DJ;FHAD;LFJH;DFSKLGSJ;D OBESITY EPIDEMIC!!!!!!!!!!!!111
Fiona Senior

I just have to say, in fairness to New Look, that the jeans in the Inspire range fit brilliantly. I can walk in and pick up a pair in a size 24 and know they’re going to fit. However, the rest of the range is dire, and I can’t figure out why because there is some lovely stuff in the regular range that I would love to try out!
http://twitter.com/fresheima Katrin

I don’t have to say how amazing this post it, amazing and sad. I mean when you really face it, and think about it I wouldn’t want to buy a thing from the plus size stuff. I really don’t want to give my money for stuff like this anymore. I can understand that of cause not every fat woman is as brave as we are and wants to show and embrace her cruves and of cause not everyone is in the middle of their 20 wanting fashionable clothes BUT even we are the minority (which I doubt) we are still there willing to give all of our money them them, if they just would give a chance!

So very, very sad. Really makes me to not buy anything anymore.
http://twitter.com/cuckoo_chanel sarah baker

honestly, i think it might even be *worse* stateside! at least the uk has dorothy perkins… and evans did the beth ditto line for a millisecond which was fun. even h&m carried a plus range in the uk this past summer (not sure if they’re continuing for fall). for every plus size range or brand that the us has, i think the uk has three. they really hate fatties over here… and yet we’re all fat.

i remember about 7 years ago, lane bryant was getting alright as far as the styles and variety of clothing… definitely some older lady stuff, but there was plenty to chose from as a freshman/sophmore in uni… back when they were owned by the limited. now, all you can expect is shapeless, drab “garments”… same with other brands like avenue, fashion bug, and cato. there is a website called fashion to figure, which i equate to plus size clothing for the jersey shore. you might be able to score one not-completely-ridiculous-looking top or dress… but don’t hold your breath. even city chic has really backslid in fashionable options since their website went usa. it really is all quite desperate.

asos curve, admittedly, is the least offensive plus range… but i agree with others about the blatant repetition of silhouettes and fabrics. i mean, how many kimono-sleeved-polyester-something-or-others do i need? how many playsuits can one fat girl own? who wears ponte, anyway??? torrid, on the other hand, makes me itch. all the clothes look so chintzy and tween-ish. the silhouettes really disappoint on every account. nothing sophisticated… nothing quality-made. what about fashionable young ladies in their TWENTIES who do NOT have beiber fever or aren’t gaga for Gaga?

forever21′s plus range is, in fact, a big fat joke. i went yesterday to the department store sized forever21 in town, after long last finding the extremely neglected plus section, and immediately feeling like i was being punk’d. nothing had the same edge as the straight sized clothes… no whimsy… even the “vampy” items just looked like trash. i did manage to find a color blocked tunic tank and some tribal printed harem pants… so it wasn’t a total bust, but i found more [tops] that fit and flattered in the ss section(s) of the store. it was a hunt, and a massive process of elimination… but with some determination and a discerning eye, it can be done.

but seriously, i can’t even find a pair of on-trend JEANS to cover my decidedly-plus, but not grotesquely un-clotheable size us20 ass. is it so hard to make a high-waist, dark denim trouser jean? and tell me why target’s junior’s (and misses’) range goes up to a “2x” (whatever that means), but the go! international designers only carry up to a large?!?!? unjust. i also feel extreme resentment toward h&m and topshop for not carrying plus sizes.

i am a bitter hag in need of fashion.
- http://pocketrocketfashion.com Lauren
  
  Haha, I think it might be a case of the grass is greener – it seems like there are not so many options stateside retail wise, but lots of fledgling designers and independent boutiques popping up, which I love.
  
  WHY do people insist on hipster jeans? They’re so unfortable! x
Caro

The “standard” range every time. Depressing.

I would rather have one Anna Scholz dress than 10 ill fitting dresses. I kept a record last year of everything I bought out of desparation and an effort to cheer myself up and than scored each item , love, so-so, loathe. If had spared myself looking crap in the so-so and loathe I could have afforded two fabulous Anna dresses. Try it, but be honest and write down EVERYTHING, it adds up really (shockingly) quickly.

The H & M Inclusive range was lovely, but how many of you noticed the sizing on the larger sizes was odd? Seemed like badly upscaled patterns from smaller sizes rather than cut to fit.
Thanks for another great post!
- http://pocketrocketfashion.com Lauren
  
  Yes, my Inclusive skirt fitted fine but I know the larger sizes came up very small. It wasn’t promoted very well, either, I don’t think. Nothing in the press about it, for instance. I doubt they’ll do another one and it’s sad because it really could have been great!
Mhairi Williamson

I have been noticing this since i put on weight, and it drives me up the wall, I can still shop at Dorothy perkins at a push, but the size 22 is terrible, unless you are a perfect hourglass i still have trouble zipping the dresses up in a 22 even though in every other shop I am a size 18 – 20 and more of a top heavy/ apple shape. I have some lovely bits from evans and love anna Scholz but most stuff is out of my price range!

Sorry that was a bit confused, i can’t type well when ranting :) xxxx
http://www.plussizebeauty07.blogspot.com Katkins1982

Most of the plus size ranges look so OLD. I’m 29, NOT 59! (In fact, my 53 year old mother wouldn’t wear a lot of the plus size range!)
It’s so depressing :(
http://fatheffalump.wordpress.com/ Fat Heffalump

RAAAGGGEEEFACCCCE!! Why do they instantly make the plus-sizes more conservative, more frumpy, and crappier fabrics?
http://shoegalfi.blogspot.com shoegalfi

New Look, those plus size ‘dresses’? Are all tops. Every single one of them.

I am tall and need a niche range for that (at present I can shop at 2 stores on the high street: Topshop & New Look) so I sympathise with your plight as a lot of what is in the main ranges is not repeated in tall sizes.
- http://pocketrocketfashion.com Lauren
  
  Yeah, you’re right. It seems anything that deviates from the norm in any way is just absolutely sidelined. Such a shame!
- http://thisgirlis.blogspot.com Lisa-Marie
  
  I am both tall (5’10″) and a size 18. A size 18 with a sizeable bum and boobs, might I add. I can JUST fit into the top sizes of the ‘normal’ ranges, but most things are too short. and tall things are cut for people who have no curves. HO-HUM.
MiMi

I like the ASOS curve range – I just wish there was more of it, they need more jeans etc the dresses are nice and actually look like dresses!!!! I cannot stand New Looks Inspire range its awful to look at and wear, I never have- I just about fit into their 18s!!
Why are plus size ranges so boring in colour too? I want to wear colour and loud prints ta very much!!
Bring back Beth Ditto please!!
Karen Ward

What an illuminating post. This is a very good visual representation of what we’re missing out on that’s available to our slimmer counterparts. It’s frustrating.
Karina Johansen

It really makes me angry and frustrated thinking about this (and I have been thinking about this A LOT!)! It is like there is a universal conspiracy against fat people “because they would probably not be fat, if they really cared about how they looked!” That is the feeling I always get when I try to find clothes that live up to my standards. I do not want cheap and frumpy polyester horrors! I want nice, luxurious and expensive (looking) clothes that are tailored to best display my curves! Why is that SO hard for the plus-size brands to get?!

And don’t even get me started about the fact that we are forced to shop, hidding behind our computer screens, because most plussize ranges are only available online! What is up with that? Do they not want us in their stores? A brand like H&M for instance only has their size XL online, you can get XS, S, M and L in the stores, so why not the XL??? Seriously, would that really be such an extra cost?

When that is said I find that ASOS Curve does ok, even though they are a little boring and repetitive in their designs sometimes. And Carmakoma is also a brand that I find very interesting.

Sorry about the rant, this is just a subject that gets me REALLY upset…
- http://pocketrocketfashion.com Lauren
  
  That annoys me too, about H&M. Dorothy Perkins are exactly the same, in all my “local” stores (Essex and London) you get every size stocked apart 20 and 22.
  
  It gets explained away as less demand, so they buy less. Then they sell out, but instead of seeing that means there’s a demand, they’re like “oh, well we only sold 5 size 22s so there’s no point buying any more”. Basically, retail is stupid! Haha.
leahdavidson1974

Forgive me if I’m wrong, but I will imagine the musings of a designer of plus size clothing (if such a thing exists and they don’t use small patterns and bung some more inches on top) in 90% of shops: ‘It doesn’t matter what we give them to wear, no matter how ugly, as they will just be grateful it fits!’

That’s how I feel when I go shopping. I’ve been downstairs in my local New Look, seen some nice clothes that’ll translate to their plus range beautifully with maybe longer sleeves, longer length, etc., but do they put the nicer clothes in the plus range? Do they arse! Ugly fabrics, ugly shapes, awful material, cheap zips, and that’s all you get after the ‘walk of shame’ upstairs to the fat girl bit. Diabolical! I wish I was better acquainted with my sewing machine, as I’d love to make my own clothes. Evans makes me want to cry, I don’t shop there at all now, it’s just vile. I get most of my clothes from Simply Be, even though they’re often shockingly poor in quality, and Yours, who I’m so thankful for, or else I’d be going around nekkid!
- http://pocketrocketfashion.com Lauren
  
  I really wish I could make my own clothes! My mum’s a former machinist but she gets too frustrated to teach, and on top of that, sewing classes tend to only teach how to create clothes for small frames. I’d love for someone with the knowledge and know how to create/sew clothes for fat bodies to do a class, or something!
- Ezzie
  
  Your fat girl section is upstairs too? Never got the point of that, how can we buy their fat girl clothes if we’ve all lost weight from going up and down the stairs…
Kittymoon

I absolutely thought the same, I was in New Look as well the other day and I saw some nice Macs only the colour was dreadful. I went down on my way out and saw exactly the same ones, not only 10 Pounds cheaper, also in the nicest colours!!! As soon as a top reaches size 22 it gets longer, the boob-seams would fit a Pamela Anderson, the arms get cut to a “flattering” (most annoying) 3/4 length … oh yes and so that it can’t be mistaken with a top from the “normal” girls, we rather make it an odd colour or add some frilly bits … *_* I rather squeeze and squash myself into a “normal” size top than buying the “flattering” or “grannyfied” clothes from the so called plus size ranges.
http://www.dorkydorasdee.tumblr.com Dorcas_magbadelo

The Forever 21 in Westfield Stratford has the Faith 21 plus size range, needless to say its looks worse in person. Asos is killing every other high street brand when it comes to fashionable and affordable plus size clothing. But its not enough, we can’t all shop in one place its not fair. I hate shopping sometimes, I actually prefer to go with smaller sized friends and be their personal shopper for the day, its pathetic. Even though I’m on the smaller scale of plus size (I’m a UK 18), I’m also tall with massive boobs, and shopping is a nightmare, everything is ill-fitting and makes me look cheap and slutty! I remember looking for work trousers once and was distressed to find I couldn’t fit into the Evans size 18, but the Peacocks 18 was perfect??!!! What the hell??? The UK plus size section of the market is a disgrace. Even 18/20 in the regular range are often ill-fitting. I studied fashion for two years and they did not even attempt to teach us about how to cater for different body sizes, unless the curriculum has changed which I doubt, this issue will continue to go on. Lauren, you say you can’t sew well, but don’t let that stop you, find a great seamstress/pattern cutter who’s able to make decent patterns for plus sizes, find a factory that will manufacture the pieces, use websites like Kickstarter to raise finances and go for it I guess. Simples lol. I’m currently working on a range with a friend of mine, and it will definitely cater to larger sizes who like to have fun with fashion. Honestly since when did plus size = grandma
Jennifer

Fat girls evidently love ditzy floral print and faded-looking, nondescript sacks. The only collection with more than one lonely attractive item is, in my opinion, ASOS Curve. Unfortunately, they’ve leapt onto the playsuit bandwagon with a sense of joyous abandon. I’m not keen on garments that need to be stripped in their entirety every time you need to pee. Particularly as eveningwear… perish the thought.
http://twitter.com/cahbachiega Cáh Bachiega

I am loving your blog, I am puttin it on my favs. I really don’t understand why they can’t make all sizes of the same dresses… it should even be in a different section as plus size…. everything should be together.
Vanessa

I’m so glad someone has the same thoughts. Being a plus-sized girl, I was thrilled when I saw the plus size section (ok, it wasn’t exactly a secition – more like a dark corner) in my Forever 21. However, once my excitement receded, I noticed that most of the clothing pieces were not up to par with most of the “regular-sized” fashions in the store. It would seem logical to bring out the same F21 collections, just in larger sizes. But no, there has to be an entirely different collection. My F21 must not have been popular with their plus size collection and the line was quickly taken off racks. So, I began to look at other online alternatives. I soon found many UK stores and to my surprise, I really liked most of the stores’ clothing. At least to me, UK plus size stores seem to be more on-trend than plus size stores in the US. I’ve come to the conclusion that no matter what size we are, or if we are unhappy with our size and are actively trying to change it, there’s no sense in not being able to find fashion our sizes. Thanks for bringing this issue up. It’s interesting to read other people’s thoughts, too.
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Mel

For a while I’ve been on the search for more colorful cotton leggings and my journey lead me to Forever 21. The first time I went and found some black ones in the Plus size section and continued wandering around. Eventually I found a rack of a whole rainbow of leggings! Pink, red, orange, greens, more greens, blues, black, greys, browns… and not a single pair was in a plus size. Black for plus size and literally the whole rainbow for non-plus size. I went back a few more times, hoping that maybe they just sold out of colorful plus sized leggings, but no… nothing but black. The last time I went, I also noticed the same thing with tights. So many nice colors and patterns for non-plus size… and nothing for plus size. Really? It’s almost insulting what their definition of what a plus size line would include. If they don’t think the line is doing well, it’s no question why!

Recently I took up sewing with a sewing machine. It’s tricky at times and can take more time than shopping, but I do appreciate the flexibility in colors, fabrics and clothing shape.
- Novelwords
  
  oh…have you tried “teggings” they come in bright colors. http://www.redressnyc.com/teggings-411/
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Rebekah

It seems to be that if you recognise as fat/chubby/plus size, etc. You are a wallflower, don’t want to be noticed, or that you are so stereotypically bubbly you can make up for dressing like a grandma! Eugh, how poo!

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